14 responses to “Greenwashing vs. Dishwashing”

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  Sam H July 18th, 2011 at 10:37

  This is an interesting catch 22 situation. Do you buy into the compostable materials out there and promote them as green or reject them based on current studies showing that they do not decompose as rapidly as they want us to think.

  I work for a food packaging distributor in Minneapolis, MN and sell all of these products to coffee shops, restaurants and coops. I believe more in the recycled paper products, hot cups, straws, etc. and their ability to break down in a landfill than the cornstarch and potato starch utensils, cups, and straws.

  We sell one line of cornstarch utensils made in China that the sales rep for that company swears passes what is called the burn test. In other words some cornstarchware is still held together by minimal amounts of plastic and when burned releases harmful byproduct into the air. The line we sell is said to be held together by a material harvested from sea shells and not plastic. Cornstarch alone does not make a strong enough utensil and needs another material to bond to.

  I read all of the studies out there and am still on the fence if these “new” “green” lines of disposables work or are just so much marketing.

  Sam H.

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  Mac Suitt November 20th, 2010 at 01:46

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  Gail Brill October 1st, 2010 at 16:53

  I think those little forks were actually made in Tupper Lake at the Wooden Bowl Factory. Now closed.

  I always say “no straw thanks” when they are brought with the drink. Why do they bring them, anyway? Are the glasses dirty?

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  Cris Winters September 26th, 2010 at 21:34

  Hey, Josh and Kathy. Yes, what about those straws? I can’t imagine the “compostable” straws are any more biodegradable then the “compostable” eating utensils. It seems paper straws are available on the web but many of them seem to be relatively expensive “designer” straws (?!). I did see some reasonably-priced ones by Aardvark. What a good idea to make that switch, although I think maybe we could do without a lot of the straws that are more of a habit than a need.

  And those utensils Kathy mentions – sporks – seem to be making a comeback in a small way, but they still need to be tossed. Maybe each of us should carry a little camping bundle of the spoon, fork, and knife. Remember those? Wash them when you get home, maybe in boiling water in your ditty bag and hang to air dry. (Does anyone else remember those Girl Scout rules at camp???)

  Thanks for your comments!

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  Kathy September 23rd, 2010 at 08:33

  Well, Josh, I’m old enough to remember when straws were made of paper…they definitely would be compostable. A straw only needs to last long enough to consume the drink it’s in and paper straws worked fine for that. There’s no need for them to be made of plastic.

  And does anyone remember those little wooden two pronged forks you used to get with an order of fries (real crinkle-cut fries, not the wimpy stringy fast food kind)?

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  Josh W September 22nd, 2010 at 11:17

  Very interesting. Does anyone know if the same holds true for compostable straws? A local restaurant where I work uses them and I wonder if they really work. Thanks